wrangletangle: a lamppost in black and white (Default)
wrangletangle ([personal profile] wrangletangle) wrote2013-02-01 07:42 pm

Not the F/F you were looking for

(This month, I'll be contributing to #femslash february by highlighting female character-centric and femslash-centric tags at AO3. Today I'll start with the not-so-happy post, to get it out of the way. The shiny starts tomorrow.)

Any shared system of classification eventually runs into the problem that different people have different definitions of each item in the classification. Case in point: if you filter for F/F on AO3, you will get at least four separate things:

* Works where one or more canonically male characters have a (frequently magical) sex change in-work but are not portrayed as trans*,
* Works where one or more canonically male characters were born cis female,
* Works where two or more women are briefly together in the background, making up a tiny, tiny fraction of the whole work,
* and Works where two or more canonical women are actually involved in the primary relationship.

Generally, the first three categories will equal or even outweigh the fourth. Which is why the statement that F/F even makes up 29,000 works, or 5% of the archive total, is ridiculous to me personally, because my personal definition of F/F is so vastly outnumbered on that tag.

This is also why I've never subscribed to the F/F category, even though it was the first tag to be available via subscription. It's simply far less useful to me that the freeform tag. -_-,

(Incidentally, this is at least 10x more true for poly. I can honestly say I've never bothered to filter for 'Multi' after the first time; as a tag for any form of poly, it's always been useless.)

Starting tomorrow: Happier posts!

Freeforms of the day: Femslash, Polygamy, Threesome, Moresomes
erinptah: A map. (writing)

[personal profile] erinptah 2013-02-02 04:19 am (UTC)(link)
"Multi" is the default icon that gets added to a fic if you check two or more of the other categories. So a Harry/Draco-and-Ron/Hermione fic tagged "M/M" and "M/F" will get that multicolored icon when it appears in search results.

(Although it does not appear to be added as a tag -- I just tried to search an M/M+M/F fic of mine, and it didn't come up under the filter.)

Either way, I always thought "more than one of these categories" was what the tag was designed for, rather than referring only to poly relationships. So it doesn't seem like the same kind of tag abuse that can be complained about with F/F.
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[personal profile] ciaan 2013-02-10 01:26 am (UTC)(link)
Hmmmm. I have absolutely put the Threesome tag on every threesome fic I've posted to the AO3, but I've never thought to use the Femslash freeform because it feels redundant to me since I'm already marking them as f/f. Whereas using freeform is the only way to mark a threesome. Does putting the Femslash freeform on really help readers/searchers enough to be worth it? Of course I want people to find my fic but I also get twitchy at having too many or repetitive labels on sometimes.