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You, posting your work to AO3: These tags are excellent, they are super-clear about exactly what I mean, and no one will ever be confused about my intent.

Me, a Tag Wrangler receiving your tags through the wrangulator: ACTUally-

#listen sometimes i stare at people's works for like 5 whole minutes #and still can't figure it out #if you use characters' full names in tags please know i love you

[tumblr.com profile] lurking-lucifer said: The Tumblr tags specify using characters’ full names.

This is honestly never something I considered before, but I’m guessing that - a lot of the time - tag wranglers probably see tags to organise/sort independent of the work itself, so it could prove confusing to see say “Human Peter” or “Mutant Keith” … the names are so common that it could belong to dozens of fandoms, with no guarantee the wrangler is a part of those fandoms either.

When writing character tags, it’s worth bearing in mind.

Not only will it make things easier for volunteers, but it’ll likely have the added benefit of increasing your audience, too, as people will have a more specific tag to search and use in place of one that could apply to several characters. After all, nothing more irritating than searching for x and finding y!


This is correct, except it’s not “a lot of the time” - it’s every time! We have to make an extra effort to go to an individual work to see the tag in context. Otherwise, all tags arrive to us without context. And if we’re wrangling hundreds of tags a day, we’re just never going to have time to check the works on all tags.

Even worse, “Human Peter” can (and has) been used by multiple people to mean different Peters. We can’t edit tags, so we can’t fix that. The tag will simply become unuseable. Human Peter Hale or Human Peter Quill, those are wrangleable tags! Human Peter, not so much.

This post explains the Peter problem in detail. (This one is funnier and shows the problem visually.) This post shows how the wrangulator works on the back end. And this post suggests how to make life easier for tag wranglers in general.

If anyone has questions about how tags work or needs help with deciding how to tag, my asks are open!
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Tags "confident peter quill" and "sensitive peter quill"

[Description: Screenshot of the tags “confident peter quill” and “sensitive peter quill” from the tag wrangling interface on Archive of Our Own.]

I love this user so much. Why do I love this user? Because even without suggestions in the autocomplete for these words, they understood the fundamental problem of Too Many Peters.

Listen y’all, there aren’t just 2 Peters, or 3. There are 56 characters named Peter in Marvel alone. There are over 580 Peters on AO3 right now. Wranglers bust our butts trying to get you the tags you need in the autocomplete, but we can’t do that without some help from you.

Tell us who you mean. Not in the notes, not in some of the tags, but in. Every. Single. Tag. Any Peter without a family name or fandom added in that same tag is a naked Peter. Don’t let your Peters go naked! Please, we’re working here!

That goes for literally every other name on the archive, too. If I had a dollar for every naked Erik we get…. no, honestly, you couldn’t pay me to deal with the naked Eriks. They are the biggest pita. Get some family names on those Eriks! (or a Phantom disambig)

Seriously, please don’t make us dig up clothes for your peeps. No matter what category they’re in, please give them to us already dressed. From the bottom of my heart to everyone who does this: thank you!

#no more naked peters
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[tumblr.com profile] mmarycontrary answered: Not me, thanks, but I just wanted to say the “women being awesome” tag has taken me to a lot of good fic. Thanks, wranglers.


(Oh hey, I think I figured out how to answer comments? #not sure i did this right #still a n00b)

I’ll pass your comment along - it’s so nice to get positive feedback!

And hey, for any Merlin fans out there, we have Awesome Gwen and Awesome Morgana tags now, thanks to you! And other fandoms have added Buttercup Being Awesome, Awesome Leela, Awesome Laura, and Awesome Jenna Stannis since I last checked the tag. \o/
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[tumblr.com profile] carmarthen-the-fan asked: Oh my gosh, I desperately want Alternate Universe - Historical Coffee Shop to be a thing. How do we make it a thing?


If you’re talking about tags, it’s pretty easy! 3 people make works for it and post on AO3 using that tag, then someone pings me or the AO3_wranglers account on Twitter or archive Support. Then it becomes a canonical tag and easier to pimp, ‘cause everyone sees it when they type in “Alternate Universe - Coffee Shop” and they’re like, “But what is this? Is it some new flavor of awesome?”

- How to get a new canonical freeform (the short version that leaves off stuff about formatting guidelines and syns and stuff)

If you’re talking about how to get people excited about the idea, I have no clue why anyone wouldn’t be. I mean, historical coffee shop au. What part of this is not awesome?

What say you, amis? Will you rise to the occasion?

ETA: Les Mis wranglers have since informed me that Historical Coffee Shop is not an AU in their universe, and therefore they cannot help. Oh well!
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[tumblr.com profile] selenay936 asked: Freeforms for Darcy? I know she tends to be in all the ships but I'm curious about the freeforms :-D


I’m so glad you asked! Darcy, in all her glory:

Assistant Darcy Lewis
Awesome Darcy Lewis
BAMF Darcy Lewis
Darcy Lewis’s iPod
Darcy Lewis’s Taser
Hel Darcy Lewis
POV: Darcy Lewis
SHIELD Agent Darcy Lewis
SHIP DARCY WITH ALL THE THINGS
Darcy Lewis is Tony Stark’s Daughter
ClintxDarcy Challenge Week
Darcy Lewis Week
Darcy Lewis Crossover Week
Darcy Lewis Prompt Week
Darcy Lewis Smut Week
Going On Facebook: A Darcy Lewis Fic Exchange
Halloween Tasertricks Exchange
Pre-Thor/AU Darcy Lewis Week Challenge
Tasertricks Winter Exchange
Tumblr: fuckyeahdarcylewis

A large portion of this list can be laid at the feet of that last little tag. Yes, fydl, we love you!

(Statistically speaking, Darcy is the MCU lady with the most canonized freeforms, despite having no comics backstory to work from. Fandom is very creative sometimes.)
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[tumblr.com profile] gardenofsastra asked: Ooh, tell me all about canonical tags for Agent Phil Coulson! Freeforms or relationships; your choice.


Ahaha, you asked for it! I’m going with freeforms, because I think they’re funnier.

#coulsonlives
Alpha Phil Coulson
Awesome Phil Coulson
BAMF Phil Coulson
Bottom Phil Coulson
Dom Phil Coulson
Fanboy Phil Coulson
Female Phil Coulson
Fenrir Phil Coulson
Oblivious Phil Coulson
Parent Phil Coulson
Pheels
Phil Coulson’s Cellist
Phil Coulson’s Trading Card Collection
Pool Hottie Phil Coulson
Protective Phil Coulson
Supernanny Phil Coulson
Top Phil Coulson
Fanon: Agent K is Agent Coulson’s Father
Pineapple and Coconut Scones
SHIELD Husbands
Community: ccbingo
Community: cc_feelsmeme
Clint Coulson Holiday Exchange

What’s interesting to me about Coulson is how much fanon is built up around him, compared to the slim canon we have. It’s one of his charms.

To see the works for a tag, use this format: archiveofourown.org/tags/TAG NAME/works (Make sure you leave the spaces in the tag. Replace “/” with “*s*”, “.” with “*d*”, and “&” with “*a*”.)
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[tumblr.com profile] clio-jlh asked: I'd love some canonical freeforms for either Natasha or Pepper, your choice.


How about both? (The lists are sadly short.)

Awesome Natasha Romanov
BAMF Natasha Romanov
Kid Natasha Romanov
Male Natasha Romanov
Natasha Romanov Feels
Parent Natasha Romanov
POV: Natasha Romanov
Protective Natasha Romanov
Community: be_compromised
Be_compromised Secret Santa 2012
The Good Ship C/N Promptathon of Magic and Joy

and

Awesome Pepper Potts
BAMF Pepper Potts
Male Pepper Potts
POV: Pepper Potts
Protective Pepper Potts
Pepperony Week

We’re within 1 use of canonizing a few more tags, though I’d have to dig out my list to see what those are. Alpha Natasha Romanov, certainly, and probably something with Pepper’s shoes.

To see the works for a tag, use this format: archiveofourown.org/tags/TAG NAME/works (Make sure you leave the spaces in the tag. Replace “/” with “*s*”, “.” with “*d*”, and “&” with “*a*”.)
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Avengers Family (26 works)
Domestic Avengers (173 works)
Everyone Is Poly Because Avengers (23 works)
Kid Avengers (81 works, including subtags)
Parent Avengers (66 works, including subtags
Protective Avengers (73 works, including subtags)

[x]

Thank you all for making these tags possible!
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(This month, I'm contributing to #femslash february by highlighting female character-centric and femslash-centric tags at AO3.)

One way that Femslash February is so, so awesome is that it focuses on the female gaze, both the gaze of female characters and the gaze of female creators.

This isn't to say men don't or shouldn't participate in femslash challenges - not at all! But one of the long-time complaints of LGBTQ+ women is the way in which our bodies and our sexualities are often objectified and appropriated for the entertainment of men. There is a profound difference in presentation between what I've seen on this tag in the past three weeks (and in femslash in general) and what I see in mainstream lesbian porn or yuri hentai. The women here on this tag are human beings celebrating relationships and their own sexuality - they are not boobs with legs.

Again, this isn't to say women can't objectify women, or that men can't create works that celebrate female sexuality in a positive way. Both of these happen! What I like about this tag is that the community as a whole rejects the primacy of the particular forms of male gaze that are catered to by most established entertainment industries. In its place, we have a variety of female gazes, non-monolithic, and all rooted in the basic idea of "yay, women!"

So yay, everyone on this tag! And to finish the post off right, here are some tags about the female gaze:

Freeforms of the day: Female Gaze and POV Female Character
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(This month, I'm contributing to #femslash february by highlighting female character-centric and femslash-centric tags at AO3.)

As I mentioned yesterday, female-centric gen, especially family, is as often sidelined as femslash. One relationship that does stand the test of canon - though not necessarily the test of fandom - is that of sisters.

Relative to mothers and daughters, media is rife with sisters: Buffy and Dawn Summers, the Miyazawa girls, Kate and Susan Bishop, Morgana and Morgause, Hinoto and Kanoe, Susan and Lucy Pevensie, Padma and Parvati Patil. (It helps that sisters aren't fridged to provide drama at the same rate mothers are, though it certainly does happen to them.) Sisters are still nowhere near as numerous as brothers (or brother and sister pairs), but they do exist.

Sometimes fandom latches onto these sisterly relationships, and sometimes it doesn't. I'm often surprised by which relationships are adopted and which ones leave barely a ripple as they pass through fandom's collective consciousness. So today I'd love to hear about your favorite sisters. Got a favorite canon or work? Leave me a note!

Freeforms of the day: Sisters and Sister-Sister Relationship

Who're your favorite sisters?
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(This month, I'm contributing to #femslash february by highlighting female character-centric and femslash-centric tags at AO3.)

In the push for femslash, I want to make sure female-centric gen is not forgotten. Like femslash, female friendships and family relationships are heavily sidelined in many fandoms, if they exist at all. We can debate about the causes, or we can do something about it (or both - both is good).

So today I bring you a heavily underrepresented relationship: mothers and daughters. We have fathers and sons EVERYWHERE in fandom: complex relationships on every end of the spectrum from positive to negative. For mothers and daughters, we have few enough canonical relationships that it's a chore for me to think of more than 10 that have actual fanworks for them, and I've been in fandom for decades.

So my request today is for you to point me to a specific mother-daughter relationship in fandom, or a work that centers on a mother-daughter relationship. It doesn't even have to be canonical - if you have a link to a work that makes Bobbi Morse into Kate Bishop's mom, or that has Relena adopt Mariemeia, or that shows Gwen Pendragon's relationship with her mother before she died/disappeared, I want it! *grabby hands*

(And yes, I'm totally collecting all your responses to post at the end of the month. In case you were wondering.)

Freeforms of the day: Motherhood, Daughters, and Mother-Daughter Relationship

Got some mothers and daughters for me?
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(This month, I'm contributing to #femslash february by highlighting female character-centric and femslash-centric tags at AO3.)

(And sorry for the gap, guys! I'm posting Wednesday and today's posts back to back as a result.)

It is a truth generally acknowledged by the entertainment industry that a woman who stars in a television show or film, shall the vast majority of the time be under the age of 40. She might, on a lucky day, be as much as 50. *koff* *Susan Sarandon "too old" to play Catwoman* *koff*

60? 70? Older? Very rare.

Is that really what we want to tell young women? "Enjoy it while you can, because once you get wrinkles, your story is over." Really? And do we want to be telling older women that they shouldn't expect to see themselves in media, except as someone's two-scene grandma dispensing worn-out advice, or appearing only to die in the same chapter/episode to create emotional growth for someone else?

Ick.

Today's challenge: offer the world a leading lady or major supporting character who is canonically over 50. (And please not someone who's an youthful alien or magically appears younger for some other reason.) Any canon, any medium. Go!

Freeform of the day: Older Woman (I couldn't find a single other tag for these ladies. Even "Grandmothers" was folded into "Grandparents & Grandchildren".)

So, who's up? Got any awesome older lady pairings for everyone?

LGBTQ+

Feb. 12th, 2013 04:36 pm
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(This month, I'm contributing to #femslash february by highlighting female character-centric and femslash-centric tags at AO3.)

It's all very well to spend one's time in detailed examination of canon in order to prove a ship - every shipper does it, regardless of genre. But I'm always especially pleased when a character is presented in a fanwork as not just part of a ship but as a queer woman in her own right, with her sexuality as part of her personal identity.

Maybe it's the scarcity of role models in canons and public life, but having fandom center-stage women along all spectrums of bodies and sexualities makes me deeply happy. After all, Merlin BBC never gave us transwoman Morgana; only fandom did that.

So today I'd like to point out some tags you can use (or browse) on works that present or focus on a female character's gender-identity or sexuality:

* LGBTQ Female Character
* Bisexual Female Character
* Bisexual Female Character of Color
* LGBTQ Female Character of Color
* Lesbian Character of Color
* Trans Female Character
* Female Homosexuality
* Lesbian Character
* POV Lesbian Character
* Canon LGBTQ Female Character
* Canon Lesbian Character
* Canon Lesbian Relationship

Please share your own thoughts! Have you found any other tags that celebrate LGBTQ women? Who's your favorite canonical LGBTQ woman?
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Look what I found in the Freeform mass bin today! ♥

[Image: Martha Jones is Awesome, Rimmer Being Rimmer, Charley Pollard is awesome, never come between Janeway and coffee, Kathryn Janeway is awesome, Liz Shaw is awesome, the brigadier always arrives in the nick of time, Barbara Wright is awesomer than you, Leela is awesome, Romana is awesome, Awesome Peri Brown, Awesome Servalan, Awesome Jenna Stannis, Awesome Liz Shaw, Awesome Leela, Classic Who companions are awesome, Awesome Jo Grant, Awesome Faith Lehane, Awesome Sandra Pullman, Awesome Miss Marple]
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(This month, I'm contributing to #femslash february by highlighting female character-centric and femslash-centric tags at AO3.)

In the spirit of Women Being Awesome, let's take a look at some other female-centric freeforms on AO3:

* Female-Centric
* BAMF Women (with lots of subtags for specific women)
* POV Female Character
* Female Protagonist
* Female Antagonist
* Female Anti-Hero
* Female Character In Command
* Female Character of Color
* Female Jewish Character
* Female Relationships
* Girls Kissing (just canonized last night due to a comment on the DW site)

Do you have any other favorite women-centric tags? What does female-centric mean to you?
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(This month, I'll be contributing to #femslash february by highlighting female-centric and femslash-centric tags at AO3.)

So I mentioned yesterday that "Women Being Awesome" used to be in the tag cloud. It's not anymore. What happened?

The tag currently has not quite 900 works. Part of the problem is that it doesn't have many subtags, like most other tags in the cloud do. "Bonding", for example, has the subtags "Male Bonding", "Forced Bonding", and "Psychic Bond" (with its own subtags), for a total of about 1200 works. But "Women Being Awesome" has only five small subtags, all names of specific women. I estimate we'll need about 200-300 more works to get it back in the cloud.

My challenge to you is: go back and tag all your previous works that include a woman being awesome with the generic tag "Women Being Awesome" and a specific tag with her full name in it. (If more than one woman is being awesome, tag them all!) Once at least 3 users have tagged with a specific name, if the tag is in one of my fandoms, I will canonize and subtag it. If it's in another wrangler's fandom, I'll leave a note with them or the wrangling committee asking for the same.

(If a tag's ready for canonization and I don't notice, please drop me an ask.)

Let's get this tag back on the front page where it belongs!

Freeforms of the day: Awesome Darcy Lewis, Awesome Natasha Romanov, Awesome Pepper Potts, Awesome Peggy Carter, and Toph Being Awesome
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(This month, I'll be contributing to #femslash february by highlighting female character-centric and femslash-centric tags at AO3.)

Formerly, one of the most popular freeforms (as defined by the tag cloud) was Women Being Awesome. The cool thing about this tag is that it brings in so many flavors of awesome, so many characters, so many different interpretations of what "awesome" means. All I know when I click on it is that I'm probably going to like whatever's on the other side. It's a great way to advertise your work as a celebration of women, regardless of what "awesome" means in their personal context.

Freeform of the day: Women Being Awesome, obviously
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(This month, I'll be contributing to #femslash february by highlighting female character-centric and femslash-centric tags at AO3.)

Posting a work on AO3 for #femslash february? Why not include that tag so we can have a canonical that points to all the amazing things that will (hopefully) be posted there this month?

With all the enthusiasm running around fandom and multiple draft posts using these tags already, I went ahead and canonized Femslash February before the month even started. I'll also canonize any subtags once they have some uses (the usual rule is 3 users, but if the tag looks popular here and I expect it to be used, I might canonize early, as I did with this one).

Please note! "Femslash February" is a subtag of "Femslash", so if you use "Femslash February" on your works, you don't need to add "Femslash" as well. You're already covered!

Freeform of the day: Femslash February

ETA: SailorPtah notes in comments that there is also a Femslash February Collection! \o/ I highly recommend you both add your work to that collection AND use the freeform tag. More advertising = more visitors!
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(This month, I'll be contributing to #femslash february by highlighting female character-centric and femslash-centric tags at AO3. Today I'll start with the not-so-happy post, to get it out of the way. The shiny starts tomorrow.)

Any shared system of classification eventually runs into the problem that different people have different definitions of each item in the classification. Case in point: if you filter for F/F on AO3, you will get at least four separate things:

* Works where one or more canonically male characters have a (frequently magical) sex change in-work but are not portrayed as trans*,
* Works where one or more canonically male characters were born cis female,
* Works where two or more women are briefly together in the background, making up a tiny, tiny fraction of the whole work,
* and Works where two or more canonical women are actually involved in the primary relationship.

Generally, the first three categories will equal or even outweigh the fourth. Which is why the statement that F/F even makes up 29,000 works, or 5% of the archive total, is ridiculous to me personally, because my personal definition of F/F is so vastly outnumbered on that tag.

This is also why I've never subscribed to the F/F category, even though it was the first tag to be available via subscription. It's simply far less useful to me that the freeform tag. -_-,

(Incidentally, this is at least 10x more true for poly. I can honestly say I've never bothered to filter for 'Multi' after the first time; as a tag for any form of poly, it's always been useless.)

Starting tomorrow: Happier posts!

Freeforms of the day: Femslash, Polygamy, Threesome, Moresomes

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